Posts Tagged ‘Kenneth Copeland’

You finish the televangelist’s statement….

September 25, 2008

Usher: Deak, what if you could be inside a modern church pastor’s brain – what would you really get to know about them?

Deacon: I sense a huge dose of sarcasm – is this going to be ugly, funny or simply “usherly”?

Usher: I’ll finish the thought – you can do it too – send me a comment…..

Creflo Dollar: Give cheerfully and know that God will give to you in direct relation to what you give to Him  …and with the proceeds, I’ll finish my new indoor pool and buy those sweet silver cupholders for my new Rolls Royce…..

Richard Roberts: Dear Lord, let the people give that the storehouses will be full…and my golf locker will have a new pair of ostrich-skin golf shoes to match my new ostrich skin head covers….

Lindsay Roberts: Lord, please help me find a scripture that justifies ……me seeing younger men because Richard won’t do anything but play golf and shop for shoes.

Kenneth Copeland: We come to give to the Lord that  the world may see that God rewards a cheerful giver …and the champagne racks in my 20 million dollar jet will be chilled and filled!

Jim Cymbala: Lord, we come to worship you today  ….with the choir that my wife built!

Joel Osteen: Lord, we pray for those airline people for a change of heart ….because my wife deserves to be treated like a celebrity.  Don’t they know who I am?

Benny Hinn: Lord, heal this person’s physical body  …..so I can get a bigger donation.  My hair transplant bill is killing me!

Usher: Send in your thoughts and comments………what is that leader really thinking?

“Tear Down & Destroy”

September 19, 2008

Deacon: Usher, I got a call, a very threatening one I might add, claiming that you are seeking simply to “tear down and destroy” the church.  No church is perfect, so why do you go to such ends to derail an imperfect vessel?

Usher: Everything is imperfect Deak, so are you saying one shouldn’t speak out against anything because it’s all imperfect?

Deacon: Be reasonable Usher.  You are attacking people and their attempt to obey the word and follow God in the best way they know how.

Usher: So if they are being led about by those who are simply out for your money to pay for their exravagant lifestyles (as in Creflo admitted he lives an extravagant lifestyle but see no wrong in it), we should just let them keep on giving while their houses are foreclosed on and they end up being a ward of the state and its social system?  Tell me what scriptures ratify that type of thinking?

Deacon: But people don’t see it as an attack on the church, they take it personal.

Usher: If the shoe fits, wear it.  If you’re the pastor taking their money, then fess up and stop! If you’re the sheep funding their preposterous and often lascivious lifestyle, then you fess up and stop!  Both parties are wrong, the system is wrong and so let it be challenged.  And about your “best way they know how”, here’s my response – “the road to hell is paved with good intentions”.

The Brand of “Jesus”

September 12, 2008

Usher: Hey Deak, don’t you pity the poor souls who buy into the rhetoric of the mainstream church? Especially the young ones who call themselves “church planters” who work for big old institutions.

Deacon: Kinda. But not really.  They’re too young to know any better and they don’t seem to want to do the due diligence it takes to find out that the organization they’re in is simply marketing the institution, not making disciples. 

Usher: It really is just like America and the whole American Dream.  It’s just that they’re using the brand of “Jesus” instead of Coca Cola or Pepsi or Marlboro.

Deacon: And interestingly enough, they see no wrong in it.  They seem to think that “marketing” is making disciples.  But in reality, it’s so different. 

Usher: They’re no better than “Carney Barkers” selling tickets to see the 2-headed, 5-arm lady.  Except in this case, the 2-headed lady is Benny Hinn, Richard Roberts, Kenny Copeland, Rick Warren…

Deacon: Usher, stop. You’re overdoing it man!  You gotta stop blasting the televangelists!  They need to eat their caviar, take their vacations and put fuel in their private jets too!

Televangelists’ School of Scandal

September 9, 2008

Usher: Deak, I put this up for you. 

Deacon: Oh so nice of you Usher.  What do you do for an encore?

Usher: Stay tuned….

 

True Confessions of a Faithful Tither, Kandise Lucas, PhD

September 2, 2008

Usher: Hey Deak, I stumbled upon this and I just cannot help sharing it.  She states it so eloquently! 

Deacon: Something got into you Usher?  You’re using suave words?  Don’t go getting civilied on us now!

Usher: What can I say, she’s a PhD – I’ve risen to the occasion just for once!

“Senator Grassley’s most recent actions have compelled me to make a confession as a mega church member. He is exposing what an increasing amount of us have known for years. These “CEO-Pastor- Reverend-Doctor’s” have been fleecing the flock for years.  For them, money does matter, in fact it is the only thing that matters.”  Read the whole post here.

“It was at that point that I realized that I was giving to make a man, his family, and his friends wealthy, not to further God’s purpose.  This realization, as devastating as it was to know that church leaders would take advantage of  generous givers in such a selfish manner, led me to rethink and restudy the concept of tithing.”  Read the whole post here.

Written by Kandise Lucas, PhD

Mr. Cymbala of Brooklyn Tabernacle should be included in “Grassley’s 6″

August 27, 2008

BREAKING NEWS

Usher: Hey Deak, some interesting stuff in the comments with regards to the Brooklyn Tabernacle on our post below.

Deacon: It appears Mr. Cymbala has created some of his own miracles.  Interesting comment with regards to the homeless community “We’re not that KIND of church”….

Usher: And he’s got money for construction but not for a stipend for those who give to him and carry out ministries he writes about in his book…..

http://deaconandusher.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/another-top-10-megachurch-brooklyn-tabernacle-your-tithe/

They Keep on Takin’ and Takin’ and Takin’ and Takin’

August 26, 2008

Usher: Deak, I like what Alan had to say in his comment on on of our previous posts

“in essence, you can beat up McChurch all you want, it’s not the techniques, it’s the people. Beat on them. Better yet, beat on the gullible fools who follow them… without a flock, there can be no pastor.”

Deacon: He’s got a point.  Even after these people are bilked, they keep coming back for more!

Usher: So Deak, what’s the difference between a televangelist and an alchemist?

Deacon: I don’t know, what?

Usher: Alchemists became obsolete when they couldn’t produce anything for their investors.  A televangelist doesn’t have to produce any results at all and their goofy followers still keep giving them money! Their followers just keep on givin’ and givin’ and givin’. 

Deacon: And the televangelists keep on takin’ and takin’ and takin’ and takin’….

UPDATE: Richard sued by accountant for “cooking the books”?

August 24, 2008

More on “King Richard’s” perils:

TULSA — Three more lawsuits rocked scandal-stricken Oral Roberts University on Wednesday, including one claiming Richard and Lindsay Roberts ordered an accountant to “cook the books” to cover up their illegal use of university money for themselves.

Oral’s Boy Shown The Door – WITH PAY!!!!

August 23, 2008

Usher: Hey Deak, does it ever end?  Priests gamble away tens of thousands and get leave, counseling while they continue giving mass  and geta a load of this one; Ricard Roberts spends the people’s money in the name of God on a Mercedes and a Lexus and jet trips for his daughter’s graduation to the Bahamas and they give him a severance!  What can we do to get some of that? 

Deacon: Entitlement Usher, entitlement.  After all, it’s his daddy’s church, why shouldn’t he have access to all the funds. 

Usher: It’s a church Deak, it’s the people’s money.

Deacon: How do you get that Usher?  It’s God’s money and his “annointed” will “further the kingdom” with it.  After all, Creflo feels more comfortable ministering in a Rolls Royce toolin’ around Atlanta while Richard prefers a Mercedes or a Jaguar to be able to relate to the privileged in order to share the gospel with them.  If you don’t have all the bling, you can’t get them to give and to sing.  Kenny C, now he needs a jet airplane to minister the gosple at 30,000 feet on his way to the Fiji Islands.

Usher: And the questions of the people in regards to their unusual behavior have now become a witch hunt according to Richard (see caption below).

Ex-head of Oral Roberts Univ. to get severance

Televangelist resigns from post amid allegations of misspent school funds

updated 8:03 p.m. ET, Wed., Aug. 13, 2008

TULSA, Oklahoma – The former president of an Oklahoma university founded by televangelist Oral Roberts, who stepped down amid allegations he misspent school funds to live in luxury, was offered a severance package but officials would not divulge its terms.

Roberts’ son, televangelist Richard Roberts, resigned from Oral Roberts University in November.

He and his wife, Lindsay, were accused of dropping money on shopping sprees, home improvements and a stable of horses for their daughters at a time when ORU was more than $50 million in debt. Both have repeatedly denied wrongdoing.

In her 1983 memoir, “Ashes to Gold,” Richard Roberts’ first wife, Patti, documented the jet-set lifestyle: a blue Mercedes as a Christmas gift for Richard, a Jaguar for her, Italian suits and Palm Beach vacations.

“We lived like characters in a novel or a made-for-TV movie about the beautiful people and I reveled in it,” she wrote. “Having made a truce, albeit an uneasy one, with my conscience over the source of our wealth, I proceeded to enjoy its prerogatives with total abandon.”

One person who says she observed the Roberts’s profligate spending up-close is Suzanne Culpepper. After hearing news of the lawsuit, she decided to come forward to recount her time working as a nanny for the Robertses one summer in the late 1980s, when she was an ORU student. Fed up with hearing the Robertses complain about the university’s financial hardship at the time, she snooped around their walk-in closet one night while the couple was out and the kids were asleep. It was “bigger than the one-bedroom apartment I live in now,” says Culpepper. She counted 275 pairs of shoes for Lindsay, all arranged by color, three rows of dresses and “tons of jewelry.” On Richard’s side, there were 160 suits, 454 ties and 18 pairs of golf shoes.  (A university spokesman declined to respond to a request for comment on Culpepper’s description.) “I had a righteous anger to an injustice,” she says. “It is so sad that people have been misled, but the truth is coming out.” Until the Robertses get a chance to respond with their own version of events, they’re surely praying as fervently as ever.

updated 8:01 p.m. ET, Fri., Oct. 5, 2007

TULSA, Okla. – Twenty years ago, televangelist Oral Roberts said he was reading a spy novel when God appeared to him and told him to raise $8 million for Roberts’ university, or else he would be “called home.”

Now, his son, Oral Roberts University President Richard Roberts, says God is speaking again, telling him to deny lurid allegations in a lawsuit that threatens to engulf this 44-year-old Bible Belt college in scandal.

Richard Roberts is accused of illegal involvement in a local political campaign and lavish spending at donors’ expense, including numerous home remodeling projects, use of the university jet for his daughter’s senior trip to the Bahamas and a red Mercedes convertible and a Lexus SUV for his wife, Lindsay.

 

Richard Roberts, president of Oral Roberts University, said God told him “this lawsuit … is about intimidation, blackmail and extortion.”

Here’s Where Your Tithe Goes! 20/20 John Stossel

August 20, 2008
Usher: Hey Deak, someone else actually thinks like we do!!!!!!

Deacon: Go Rusty Go Rusty Go!!!!!!

Usher: He actually put 2 million dollars of his
own money where his mouth is!

Deacon: Too bad you don’t have more money and less mouth!

MinistryWatch featured on 20/20 with John Stossel:
MinistryWatch.com was recently interviewed on ABC’s 20/20
with John Stossel regarding the lack of financial transparency
among some televangelists. A transcript of the interview is
available (pdf) »HERE.« Please also see our amplification of the
story »HERE« and a personal note from Rusty Leonard »HERE«.
 

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